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		<title>By: PostRank – Church</title>
		<link>http://www.djchuang.com/2009/impact-matters-more-than-intention/comment-page-1/#comment-8810</link>
		<dc:creator>PostRank – Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Impact matters more than intention http://bit.ly/1YQOEk &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/s?q=%23postrank&quot;&gt;#postrank&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/s?q=%23church&quot;&gt;#church&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Fong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Fong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fyi: this is what I just sent to Zondervan...

Dear Jason:

I&#039;m sure you and the rest @ Zondervan have already been inundated with concerns and criticisms regarding your decision to use images from various Asian cultures as a way to frame a book about Christian character and integrity.  I just want to add my voice to those you&#039;ve already heard from.  It&#039;s hard enough to get secular media outlets to stop perpetuating harmful or disrespectful stereotypes of Asians and Asian Americans.  But it is especially disturbing when a Christian company demonstrates profound ignorance of why this is damaging and sinful to segment of the population that I represent.  When I was a trustee with IVCF, I was given an up-close view of how IVPress selected manuscripts, worked with authors, and even decided on cover art.  So I know that the decision to use the authors&#039; previous framing device couldn&#039;t have escaped this vetting process @ Zondervan.  Assuming that I am correct about this, that&#039;s why it&#039;s all the more shocking that no one at your company was disturbed by this, that no one there knew enough either to remove all of these offensive references and allusions or to check with reliable Asian and Asian American Christian leaders first.  

The damage has clearly been done.  You&#039;ve spent money and the book is available for purchase.  As of this writing, you may have already made a decision to remove it from stores and have issued a heart-felt apology.  However, if you haven&#039;t yet, if you&#039;re still weighing how to respond to this backlash from significant parts of the Body of Christ, then you&#039;re also sending a clear message.  That you really aren&#039;t convinced, as the authors now clearly are, that the artwork and conceptual framework of this book are blatantly offensive, or that Zondervan was completely wrong in signing off on it, or that the clearest and best course of action would be to remove it from the shelves.  I hope by now that you and the other decision-makers at Zondervan have reached these conclusions and have begun to contribute to the emerging efforts of reconciliation and understanding.

Sincerely,

Rev. Dr. Ken Fong
Senior Pastor
Evergreen Baptist Church of LA, Rosemead

My beef is not just with the authors&#039; but with the publishers.  This must have survived their vetting process because they don&#039;t get how things like this are blatantly offensive ripoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fyi: this is what I just sent to Zondervan&#8230;</p>
<p>Dear Jason:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you and the rest @ Zondervan have already been inundated with concerns and criticisms regarding your decision to use images from various Asian cultures as a way to frame a book about Christian character and integrity.  I just want to add my voice to those you&#8217;ve already heard from.  It&#8217;s hard enough to get secular media outlets to stop perpetuating harmful or disrespectful stereotypes of Asians and Asian Americans.  But it is especially disturbing when a Christian company demonstrates profound ignorance of why this is damaging and sinful to segment of the population that I represent.  When I was a trustee with IVCF, I was given an up-close view of how IVPress selected manuscripts, worked with authors, and even decided on cover art.  So I know that the decision to use the authors&#8217; previous framing device couldn&#8217;t have escaped this vetting process @ Zondervan.  Assuming that I am correct about this, that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s all the more shocking that no one at your company was disturbed by this, that no one there knew enough either to remove all of these offensive references and allusions or to check with reliable Asian and Asian American Christian leaders first.  </p>
<p>The damage has clearly been done.  You&#8217;ve spent money and the book is available for purchase.  As of this writing, you may have already made a decision to remove it from stores and have issued a heart-felt apology.  However, if you haven&#8217;t yet, if you&#8217;re still weighing how to respond to this backlash from significant parts of the Body of Christ, then you&#8217;re also sending a clear message.  That you really aren&#8217;t convinced, as the authors now clearly are, that the artwork and conceptual framework of this book are blatantly offensive, or that Zondervan was completely wrong in signing off on it, or that the clearest and best course of action would be to remove it from the shelves.  I hope by now that you and the other decision-makers at Zondervan have reached these conclusions and have begun to contribute to the emerging efforts of reconciliation and understanding.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Rev. Dr. Ken Fong<br />
Senior Pastor<br />
Evergreen Baptist Church of LA, Rosemead</p>
<p>My beef is not just with the authors&#8217; but with the publishers.  This must have survived their vetting process because they don&#8217;t get how things like this are blatantly offensive ripoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: djchuang</title>
		<link>http://www.djchuang.com/2009/impact-matters-more-than-intention/comment-page-1/#comment-8799</link>
		<dc:creator>djchuang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, while the discussion forum is not the best place to find resolution, it doesn&#039;t seem to be a private matter, since this is an issue related to a public matter, that of a published book. 

From what I&#039;ve read, constructive discussions are under way, so hopefully that means a meaningful resolution will be made. Until that time, I will be refraining from further commentary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, while the discussion forum is not the best place to find resolution, it doesn&#8217;t seem to be a private matter, since this is an issue related to a public matter, that of a published book. </p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve read, constructive discussions are under way, so hopefully that means a meaningful resolution will be made. Until that time, I will be refraining from further commentary.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Chuang</title>
		<link>http://www.djchuang.com/2009/impact-matters-more-than-intention/comment-page-1/#comment-8800</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Chuang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/tonytsheng&quot;&gt;@tonytsheng&lt;/a&gt; motive is only one factor in racism; both intentional and unintentional racism still stings &amp; hurts http://ow.ly/znqM&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by FastChurch, DJ Chuang, dpark75, John Lamb, Jim Gray and others. Jim Gray said: Impact matters more than intention http://bit.ly/3yjBWj via @djchuang #dvca [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Community Ninja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Community Ninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;via &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/djchuang&quot;&gt;@djchuang&lt;/a&gt; [djchuang.com] Impact matters more than intention -  http://ow.ly/15ZjLB&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Impact matters more than intention http://bit.ly/3yjBWj via &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/djchuang&quot;&gt;@djchuang&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/s?q=%23dvca&quot;&gt;#dvca&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Kyle Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with you on the proper forum.
It just does not seem appropriate to have this type of discussion through a comment stream and then on by blog post. It seems like a much more private thing that needs to be reconciled between the two.
It feels like it is turning into an &quot;us verse them&quot; thing and not a we thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with you on the proper forum.<br />
It just does not seem appropriate to have this type of discussion through a comment stream and then on by blog post. It seems like a much more private thing that needs to be reconciled between the two.<br />
It feels like it is turning into an &#8220;us verse them&#8221; thing and not a we thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Hispanic Nashville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hispanic Nashville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/dpark75&quot;&gt;@dpark75&lt;/a&gt;: Impact matters more than intention « djchuang.com http://bit.ly/3lRQOV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: John Lamb</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT &lt;a href=&quot;http://topsy.com/twitter/dpark75&quot;&gt;@dpark75&lt;/a&gt;: Impact matters more than intention « djchuang.com http://bit.ly/3lRQOV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by FastChurch: Impact matters more than intention http://bit.ly/3lRQOV...</description>
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		<title>By: Amy Moffitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Moffitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks DJ for posting this to Facebook, as well...

I understand that this debate is painful and feels totally different for those who feel they have a dog in the fight, but I think this needed to happen.  

This book never should have made it off the presses.  It&#039;s clear to me from reading the various posts and blogs that this is a repeat offense, both from Zondervan and from this sector of Christian culture.  If one assumes good intent on the part of all involved, then it is absolutely necessary to point out the offense repeatedly until it is clear the other side gets it.  Otherwise, the name of Christ continues to be tainted by unwitting racism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks DJ for posting this to Facebook, as well&#8230;</p>
<p>I understand that this debate is painful and feels totally different for those who feel they have a dog in the fight, but I think this needed to happen.  </p>
<p>This book never should have made it off the presses.  It&#8217;s clear to me from reading the various posts and blogs that this is a repeat offense, both from Zondervan and from this sector of Christian culture.  If one assumes good intent on the part of all involved, then it is absolutely necessary to point out the offense repeatedly until it is clear the other side gets it.  Otherwise, the name of Christ continues to be tainted by unwitting racism.</p>
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		<title>By: dpark75</title>
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		<dc:creator>dpark75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DJ Chuang</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Chuang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;[djchuang.com] Impact matters more than intention - Wow. These blog post comment threads at here and here about uni... http://ow.ly/15ZjLB&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">[djchuang.com] Impact matters more than intention &#8211; Wow. These blog post comment threads at here and here about uni&#8230; <a href="http://ow.ly/15ZjLB" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/15ZjLB</a></span></span></span></p>
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